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Art Sync: Tone, Color, Depth, and Mystery

Conversation with Leigh Werrell

by Elizabeth Johnson, edited by Matthew Crain

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Art Sync: Tone, Color, Depth, and Mystery - Conversation with Leigh Werrell - Viewing Room - Gross McCleaf Gallery Viewing Room

Drawing Study, Wine Bar

Elizabeth Johnson: Last time we chatted, we talked about work that "comprises mainly empty spaces, and individual people, or separates the viewer from a space that they either can't enter or can't fully see into." How do ideas for paintings begin?

Leigh Werrell: I use drawings and photos as references for my paintings. Usually something I see during my day-to-day life triggers an idea for a painting. I’ll take a few snapshots of the scene, make a note of the idea in my phone, and then it will normally percolate in my brain for a time ranging from one week to a year. Somewhere in that process I do a drawing, and this is the point where the idea either blooms or fails. After that, I may take more pictures, but I often rely on the snapshots because I find that if I have too clear a reference, the painting loses the magic that comes with my mind making up details that I can’t see in the pictures. I am never simply copying the forms or colors in the reference photos.

In paintings like Wine Bar, Night Nursing, and Long Morning I didn’t have a picture of the exact scene, but I made my husband, Ben, reenact his posture in each so I could get a more accurate handle on the perspective.

Art Sync: Tone, Color, Depth, and Mystery - Conversation with Leigh Werrell - Viewing Room - Gross McCleaf Gallery Viewing Room

Wine Bar

EJ: I respond to Long Morning as delighting in surfaces, especially the cat's fur, the Apple computer cord, and people's clothing. Each of these subjects seem to glow from within and without, as if under individual lighting. With Long Morning, as you interpreted your drawing, are you conscious of turning your laser-like gaze more on some things than others? Do you keep walls, furniture, and floor more neutral for contrast?

LW: I am always thinking about what the most important parts of the painting are and which areas I’d like to keep as “supporting players.” When I started Long Morning, I had been thinking a lot about Mamma Andersson’s use of stark contrast and deep blacks to anchor a scene. In my house we have a long oval dining table that’s been in my family since I was a kid; I think my dad found it in his favorite “shopping” place, the local dump, and painted it black to hide its discoloration. I liked the idea of keeping the table and chairs as one large, unified, dark shape while rendering the background in a more monochrome palette.

The objects on the table were arranged to balance each other visually, but I didn’t feel obligated to light them realistically––just enough to keep the scene believable. Letting go of strict realism in the lighting allowed me the freedom to play around with the texture and color in a way that wouldn’t have been possible otherwise, giving the painting a richer personality and letting small, magical moments emerge.

Art Sync: Tone, Color, Depth, and Mystery - Conversation with Leigh Werrell - Viewing Room - Gross McCleaf Gallery Viewing Room

Long Morning, Oil On Panel, 42" x 24"

Art Sync: Tone, Color, Depth, and Mystery - Conversation with Leigh Werrell - Viewing Room - Gross McCleaf Gallery Viewing Room

Night Nursing, Oil On Panel, 24" x 24"

EJ: Nursery and Night Nursing witness nursing, your partner and the new baby from a distance, expressing domestic privacy in low light and your signature glowing lavender and blue tones. Why did you take the overhead view in Night Nursing? Is Nursery an expression of security, quiet, and order between what I presume must be busy days? Would you compare Nursery to Whistler's Mother, which made composing a static figure and rectangle(s) famous?

LW: Both those paintings came from the haze of new parenthood, as I held my newborn in the dark hours of the morning. In Night Nursing I used an overhead view to include my husband sleeping in the bed next to me to emphasize that, even with a wonderful partner, caring for an infant is an overwhelmingly isolating and exhausting task. Still, there is so much love and devotion in the act of caring for our baby, and I wanted to show that, as well. She is over a year old now and it’s much easier! I don’t think that the mental and physical load of new mothers is talked about enough, especially considering that in the US, unpaid maternal leave averages only 10-12 weeks, though many people take off less time. It takes 6-8 weeks on average just to recover physically from giving birth!

Art Sync: Tone, Color, Depth, and Mystery - Conversation with Leigh Werrell - Viewing Room - Gross McCleaf Gallery Viewing Room

Nursery, Oil On Panel, 24" x 24"

LW: I do tend to organize my compositions in rectangles. Recently, I was thrilled to get a close-up view of Whistler’s Mother in Paris! You are right to compare Nursery’s composition to the sturdy forms and precisely placed curtain of Whistler’s Mother.

Both Nursery and Night Nursing have a rectangular composition that allow each piece of the scene to have space to itself but be in conversation with the other parts. You will see this pattern emerge in a few other paintings.

EJ: In Hyperallergic I read Christen Clifford's review of Jordan Troeller's new book, Ruth Asawa and the Artist-Mother at Midcentury, that distinguishes between making work "about mothering" and "while mothering." Clifford cites Troeller's argument: "that by using the rhythms of the domestic as organizing principles and forging an interdependent care creative community, and in spite of ideas of modern male genius alone in his studio, these women modernists made motherhood into a medium.'" If it’s not too soon to talk about this, has mothering affected your painting?

Art Sync: Tone, Color, Depth, and Mystery - Conversation with Leigh Werrell - Viewing Room - Gross McCleaf Gallery Viewing Room

Leigh Werrell painting Nursery, in progress

LW: I love this review, and the book sounds very interesting! I have been thinking about this idea of motherhood as an adventure to integrate into one’s lived experience, rather than a new identity that eliminates the person you were before.

There’s an idea that has been persistent throughout recent history that becoming a mother means foregoing any other life goal, especially one of being an artist. As a single mother, Alice Neel notoriously felt torn between motherhood and her practice (and has often been criticized for focusing too much on her work, and not her children––try to find a male artist who gets the same criticism!) Many women painters from the 1960s and ’70s chose to forego children to focus on their art.

I believe that there is a systematic reason for the difficulty women artists experience balancing their practice with mothering. Parenthood was never meant to be a one-person task, and the days when one income supported a household are long gone. With many women being held to the impossible task of both running the home and working full time, it’s not surprising that they would give up their artistic practice––or any goal outside of that. The only solution is an overhaul of inequitable capitalist practices, eradication of domestic inequality, and building communities to support new mothers.

Art Sync: Tone, Color, Depth, and Mystery - Conversation with Leigh Werrell - Viewing Room - Gross McCleaf Gallery Viewing Room

Crepe Cart, Oil On Panel, 22" x 24"

LW: When I was pregnant, I made a conscious decision to complete this show, because I wanted to make sure I did not lose my artistic identity, which is only one part of me but an important part! However, I have been able to finish only through luck and privilege, by having a top-tier co-parent, and by counting on my community for help. The paintings themselves have continued to be about my life, and what I see day to day. What has changed is me.

EJ: Considering Nursery, Night Nursing, Wine Bar, and Ortleib's, novel relationships are cropping up between spaces and people, moments and whispers of stories feel sustained. Now that we are out of the pandemic, are there new kinds of stories you want to tell in paint?

LW: I’m still very much interested in ambiguity and allowing the viewer to make up their own story, but the settings of those stories may be more varied now. I find that I’m leaning more toward scenes where the presence of humans is implied. I like the idea of coming to the picture after someone has departed, like a tracker feeling a fire pit for lingering heat.

Art Sync: Tone, Color, Depth, and Mystery - Conversation with Leigh Werrell - Viewing Room - Gross McCleaf Gallery Viewing Room

Inside Out, Gouache, 13" x 5.5"

EJ: Inside Out contrasts a tree branch pattern, a flat yellow light and a simplified, dark portrait. Likewise, Street Lamp contrasts a similar light, tree branches, and night sky. The patterns recall gazing out the window at darkness and letting one's mind drift. Considered with Little Window's external view of illumination, I feel the poignancy of a thin, yellow surface that separates internal and external views, operating as a porous witness.

It's almost as if you invite the viewer to inhabit a delicate scrim between inside and outside. Do you identify personally with this liminal space?

LW: This space has always fascinated me. It’s the point at which something changes, and makes everything beyond that point take on a completely different tone, texture, or shape. I titled my show at Gross McCleaf For the Moment because the work in the exhibition reflects the current point of transition of my life. Though it’s been a year since Hazel was born, I feel like my entire future has changed color, but I can also still see the clear hues and shapes of the past. Neither one is better or worse, but I am certainly in a space where I’m looking both backward and forward in an intense way.

Art Sync: Tone, Color, Depth, and Mystery - Conversation with Leigh Werrell - Viewing Room - Gross McCleaf Gallery Viewing Room

Little Window, Oil On Panel, 20" x 20"

Art Sync: Tone, Color, Depth, and Mystery - Conversation with Leigh Werrell - Viewing Room - Gross McCleaf Gallery Viewing Room

Crepe Cart in progress

EJ: Regarding color choices, in our last interview you said, "I feel that all my work requires specific colors to convey a story. They give meaningful value to the work by providing a clearer narrative, though ambiguity is still very important to me. Creating a white or monochromatic sculptural piece can be great, but a neutral or static color also brings a loaded meaning to a piece. So, I choose whatever color makes the most sense for the work." Do you distinguish story-wise between using a strong, flat color behind patterns as in Little Window, Streetlamp, and Inside Out, and color used sculpturally or atmospherically as in Crepe Cart, Ortleib's and Fizz? What makes you choose one approach over the other?

LW: Little Window, Streetlamp, and Inside Out all have a very specific focal point of luminescence. This attracts me because of the contrasting nature of the light, how much detail is seen or lost in that glow, and how the darker details indulge the light. In this case, yellow can be seen as a local color, symbolizing “light” as a thing in itself and for itself. In a painting like Crepe Cart, the underpainting was red, and it got more and more blue as I went along because I liked the lonely, empty mood that was coming forward with this change. At first, there was even a visible person inside the cart, but I only left a hint of that to maintain the melancholia of the scene. Often, I don’t have a good grasp of the mood of a scene until I start putting in color, and then the sensibility of the narrative unfolds.

Art Sync: Tone, Color, Depth, and Mystery - Conversation with Leigh Werrell - Viewing Room - Gross McCleaf Gallery Viewing Room

Fizz, Oil On Panel, 12" x 12"

EJ: In our last interview you summarized, "I focus on familiarity in artwork. I want to connect to the scenes and objects in my work, and I believe that if I am connecting with them, other people will too. People are in the world to be seen, and the best expression of being seen comes with learning that you have had the same experience as someone else. For instance, reading a book that you can relate to or observing how another person has been as delighted as you have been with a shape or color that you have seen in a different context. Inhabiting their perspective can shift your ideas about that object, scene, or story."

Does painting situations with some detachment perhaps create lingering empathy in your pieces?

LW: Yes. That is one of the main tools that I use when painting. By finding the line between directness and ambiguity, I get the story started for the viewer, so that they can go on their own journey within the narrative. This quality isn’t something I think about consciously, I tend to gravitate towards scenes that are mysterious in some way.

Art Sync: Tone, Color, Depth, and Mystery - Conversation with Leigh Werrell - Viewing Room - Gross McCleaf Gallery Viewing Room

Ortleib's, Oil On Panel, 15" x 18"

EJ: Describing life post-pandemic, Ortleib’s, Wine Bar, and Fizz, make me so happy––we're finally getting out and about! With Ortleib’s, the reflective surfaces and brightly lit fruit and computer screen against dim bottles and photos of faces connect with your statement: "a neutral or static color also brings a loaded meaning to a piece."

Was weighing and balancing color a big part of this painting?

LW: Balancing color is one of the most important tasks for me in any painting, on par with balancing shade and tone.

My friend and a wonderful painter, Amanda Bush, used to talk to me in grad school about the importance of grey, and we would chat about how crucial it often is to find that neutral to make the bright colors feel more interesting. Using all bright or all neutral colors works sometimes but can often lead to garish or muddy combinations.

Art Sync: Tone, Color, Depth, and Mystery - Conversation with Leigh Werrell - Viewing Room - Gross McCleaf Gallery Viewing Room

Nursery in progress

LW: My husband is a bass guitar player and I think using grey is similar to including that instrument in a band: most people tend to pay more attention to the lead guitarist or singer, but the bass is always there in the background keeping the rhythm and enhancing the other parts to allow them to stand out in the best way possible.

EJ: I admire how you combine foreshortening with many different ruddy hues in Wine Bar, and Fence seems to explore detachment as a balance between deep space and limitation. Can you talk about thinking in color in sculptural vs. flat terms? Is it a challenge to mix sculptural depth and perspectival depth and still use color?

LW: I have one semi-sculptural piece in this show, Nursery, and the crib is raised up slightly from the panel. This element adds to the piece because it is so dark, and I wanted to bring the crib to the forefront without making it much lighter than the surrounding room. It is dark enough to speak to the experience of many other mothers who, desperate for a break, hang blackout curtains, perform elaborate nap-time rituals, and rock their baby for what feels like hours in the hopes of prolonging their naps. (Other new mothers may sympathize with my despair over Hazel’s twenty-seven-minute naps through her first eight months!)

Art Sync: Tone, Color, Depth, and Mystery - Conversation with Leigh Werrell - Viewing Room - Gross McCleaf Gallery Viewing Room

Green Fence, Oil On Panel, 24" x 24"

Art Sync: Tone, Color, Depth, and Mystery - Conversation with Leigh Werrell - Viewing Room - Gross McCleaf Gallery Viewing Room

Leigh Werrell painting in her studio

LW: I came up with this image as I sat in the dark, waiting for the right moment to sneak out of the room without waking the baby while I stared at the faint light coming through the curtain.

The first step for me in starting a painting is to make sure the composition works tonally before I start in on color. Drawing is my tool for finding the most interesting and balanced tones, and the guideline for my color choices that I edit as I go along. Since most of my paintings have at least some imagined elements, I try to consider the physics of my made-up spaces; for instance, what color and vibrancy would a wooden table reflect if it was below a window? How would lamplight change color as it moves from surface to surface? What color shadow would a cup of translucent liquid have on a bar? I enjoy amplifying the brilliance of some colors while flattening others, letting certain hues become almost symbolic of the objects they inhabit.

The pieces with added sculptural elements complicate this process, since they disrupt my usual tone-to-color system. The interplay between two and three dimensions sometimes prevents a fully convincing realism, but I find that tension makes the work more engaging.

––Elizabeth Johnson
(elizabethjohnsonart.com)

edited by Matthew Crain
(@sarcastapics)

Art Sync: Tone, Color, Depth, and Mystery - Conversation with Leigh Werrell - Viewing Room - Gross McCleaf Gallery Viewing Room

Leigh Werrell painting in her studio

Leigh Werrell is an artist living and working in Philadelphia. Recently the subjects of her paintings include her experiences as mother to a one-year-old, views of her Mount Airy neighborhood, everyday scenes with her family, and views of and through the windows of her home. She is originally from Durham, NC and came to Philadelphia for an MFA from the Pennsylvania Academy of the Fine Arts.

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